Friday, January 14, 2005

Herman's Hermits and the Who

Herman's Hermits / The Who in Cleveland

It's funny these days to remember that The Who's first
U.S. tour was as opening act for Herman's Hermits.
Well, I guess if Jimi Hendrix could open for The
Monkees it's not that strange.

Some of us in Akron were able to get import British
'45s, so we actually were pretty up-to-speed on The
Who, and thought they were the greatest band going.

When the concert came to Cleveland, I was allowed to
go. My friend Greg Bury of The Brambles drove, as I
was still too young to go by myself. I didn't know any
of the Kent folks on this blog yet, as Kent was still
a few years away for young David.

As we had little interest in Herman's Hermits, and
were crazy for The Who, we decided to bail on the
concert at intermission and see if we could follow
them back to their hotel. Amazingly enough, this
worked and we found ourselves pulling up to the lobby
of the Statler-Hilton in Cleveland.

Upon entering the lobby, we found a dozen or so young
fans like ourselves and Roger Daltry holding forth on
a sofa. We heard that John Entwhistle was downstairs
in the adjacent club ( Otto's Grotto, I believe it was
called), and most of our party repaired down there. I
couldn't because I was under 18.

But Greg and I spied Peter Townshend as he was heading
for the elevator, and he was nice enough to stop for a
minute and shake hands and let us tell him we thought
he was great.

Not long after, Peter Noone arrived, and planted
himself in the bar off the lobby. In his wake, a bunch
of teenybopper girls appeared (they must have been
young if they seemed young to me) and wanted to go
talk to "Herman" but were afraid to enter the bar
because they "weren't allowed".

So they waited patiently, and after an hour or so of
mooning and twittering, were rewarded by the sight of
Mr. Noone and a few manager-type associates heading
from the bar into the lobby toward the elevators. We
had been nearby listening to Daltry, who was dressed
splendidly in a flowing paisley capelike jacket,
regale his fans with god-knows-what kind of b.s.

We weren't paying that much attention to Herman's
group, but at that point an interesting thing
happened: a very pissed-off shout loudly echoed
through the lobby, which was "I'm gonna kick your
fucking blooming ass!!!". As all heads turned, we saw
dear sweet Herman (who was not exactly a small guy,
cute press shots notwithstanding) throwing a
roundhouse punch at some drunk guy in a suit.

Apparently this fellow was a hotel guest drinking in
the bar who didn't know or care who Peter Noone was
and had spent the last hour insulting him because he
had long hair. By then Herman had had a few himself
and was ready to mix it up.

Quickly his handlers restrained Noone, who was
frothing and screaming and trying to break loose to
fight this guy, and (no doubt envisioning the morning
papers) they hustled him bodily into the elevators and
upstairs. But not before some 50-ish, short bald man
in a suit with a cigar in his mouth, who appeared to
be about 5 feet tall and was undoubtedly on the
business side of the Hermit's team, said "Why don't
you try that with me, sport !", and pushed the drunk
ass-over-teakettle down a short flight of stairs.

Simultaneously, I noticed two things: one was the
completely horrified expressions on the young
teenybopper girl's faces as some kind of dream
shattered before their eyes, and the other was Roger
Daltrey, now standing on top of the back of the couch,
waving his outstretched arms and singing as loud as he
could a slightly sarcastic rendition of The Beatle's
tune "All You Need Is Love".

After that, everyone pretty much called it a night.

-Scroggy

188 comments:

bh said...

I was working for Joe Walsh in the mid '70's when
he and hid Barnstorm band opened for the Who in Cleveland Stadium. Joe's piano player, Paul Harris, disappeared from the tour, and Joe Vitale had to come up from Canton to play the show. After the concert, as both bands went out to dinner at the seafood restaurant on the East 9th Street pier, Keith Moon let a rent-a-car run off the pier and into Lake Erie...eerie.

PGSantaCruz said...

I was there too with David Scroggy (how are you?) and the rest. We talked to Peter Townsend in the elevator and went down to the bar downstairs where the incident took place exactly as Mr. Scroggy has outlined it. What a riot!!! To see this teen idol turn turn into Billy Idol right before us over a stupid comment re: long hair on men from a drunk in a bar. Those were the days in Northeast Ohio where one of the more popular phrases came from an old Barbarians record - "Are you a boy or are you a girl?" Roger Daltry singing "All you need is love" was icing on the cake.

Peter Goodman

dscroggy said...

In reading the 25 Greatest Moments article ( see posting under The Blues Project for a link), I was reminded of another Who concert I saw. It was at Musicarnival near Cleveland. The date was July 14, 1968. The article says this about the venue:


"Musicarnival was a big round tent standing at what is now the parking lot for Thistledown Racetrack on Northfield Road in Warrensville Heights. Starting in 1953, it had presented musical theater and summer stock. Then, in 1966, it started booking top-name rock acts. Relatively small, at 2,300 seats, the venue offered concertgoers a terrific opportunity to see the stars – like the Who, the Doors and Led Zeppelin – under reasonably intimate conditions."

I rode up with Bruce Davies. A cop stopped us on the way because Bruce had long hair. After checking us out, he told Bruce that "one of these days I'm going to cite one of you guys for unsafe driving due to obscured vision from that long hair".

That notwithstanding, we arrived. I can't remember who the opening act was, but they played. The stage was re-set and The Who came on to the ringing chords of "Substitute". When they had finished, to general acclaim, everyone could hear a particularly leather-lunged voice yell "smashyerguitar!!!".

The Who continued, and after each song the same fan yelled the same thing: "smashyerguitar!!!smashyerguitar!!!smashyerguitar!!!"

Finally, visibally annoyed, Townshend stepped up to the mike and said: "Look- if I smash my guitar, the show's over. Don't you want to hear the music instead ? Now we'd like to do a mini-opera called 'A Quick One While He's Away'. Now do you want to hear it, or do you want me to smash my guitar?"

A half-second of silence, and then, louder than ever,
"smashyerguitar!!!".

Townshend went absolutely nuts. I have seen The Who lots of times, but this wasn't the regular destructo-trip, this was a slavering, pissed-off assault on the equipment that was mind-boggling in its intensity. Amps strewn around him, using the jagged neck of what was once a fine instrument to savagely scoop out the screaming electronic guts of the speakers and wires, Townshend indeed smashed his guitar. And anything else in sight. Cheerfully discerning which way the wind was blowing, Kieth Moon launche his drum kit in all directions like confetti being shot from a cannon. Entwhistle and Daltrey
wisely got out of the way.

As the dust settled and the smoke disapated, the audience came to a kind of depressing realization. The Who had only played about three songs and the show was obviously over. The band was gone, and we all kind of sat around for awhile dumbfounded, and gradually began to exit.

Next to the tent where the stage was, there was a small house. I guess this was used as the dressing room, because just as I was passing it none other than Kieth Moon came out on the porch yelling "go back in- we're still going to play". Ah, those were the days- no particular security staff, just Moon hollering at anyone within earshot. So we went back in. Everyone just sat wherever they could find a seat.

The various roadies began to re-set the stage with the opening act's equipment. I imagine The Who had to swear on a stack of bibles to not wreck their stuff. I also suspect that The Who's return was motivated by a discussion between their management and the promoter on what constitued a performance worthy of being paid for, but who knows?

They did finally take the stage, they finished their set, and everyone went home. I don't think it was the best musical performance by The Who I ever heard, as the second part was somewhat uninspired musically as they obviously wanted to just get out of there, but it certainly was memorable. -DS

Chris Butler said...

ah...The Who. don't get me started or i'll bore you all w/my ramblings & ruminations re: how much i (still) love this band.

- but -

The Musicarnival show was a key one for me, too. the opener was Cyrus Erie (w/ Eric Carmen?), and duh - they actually played Substitute (what were they thinking??). i didn't hear the 'smashyerguitar' geek, but i do remember that (tho JE had all Sunn bass gear) Pete had taken delivery of some new Fender solid-state stuff...and visibly and vocally expressed his hatred for this crap. after the spectacular smash-up (which was as precise, nasty & thorough as DS remembered it) , they retreated to a trailer behind the tent, and i remember many of us begging JE & KM (who hung in the open doorway) to please come back and finish the show. eventually, there was some kinda arrangement made w/ Cyrus Erie for equipment, and they did finish the show. there was no concert security back then, so i was able to climb up one of the support poles that leaned over the stage. this put me about 10 feet from PT, and when he spotted my watching his hands during Pictures of Lily, he tilted his guitar up so i could see better and made eye-contact/"this is how it goes". cool...a private lesson!

btw - while they were back onstage, someone stole their passports from that trailer, which generated much grief the next day at Immigration Control in Toronto - the next gig.

um...i didn't take 'em!

cbutler

Chris Butler said...

ps - Patrick Culley - sure would like to meet Tom Wright!

cb

dscroggy said...

Chris please bore us with your ramblings & ruminations about how you (still) love this band. Or anything else you may recall. Thanks, DS

j aylward said...
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j aylward said...

Yup, thats the way I remember it. Thanks for all the details Dave and Pete! J aylward

AndyH said...

I had met the Who the previous year at Otto's grotto after recording a TV show with the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band at Otto's Grotto. The Union Gap was playing in this tiny bar and we closed the place with Gary Puckett, John Entwistle and the head roadie...The following year he spotted us at the Musicarnival concert and asked if we'd mind helping on Stage. I stood just next to Townshend for the entire show nearly getting whacked by his guitar when he threw it out over my head and the coil cord brought it back. Also remember dalty having trouble with his mike cord...Andy Hanzel Penny Arcade...

AndyH said...

The TV show was The Jay Lawrence Show and was taped at WKYC...sorry for the confused note above.

AndyH said...

Does anyone have any photos from the Who/Musicarnival show? Andyh

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