Friday, January 07, 2005

The Measles, Glass Harp, James Gang, the Numbers Band

These bands played mostly at J.B.'s on Water Street. Great playing, great singing, great grooves and beer, a spud's delight.
Remember:
the Kove, the Loft, the Robin Hood and the other bars I've forgotten.
Remember
Fred Weber, Jeff Curry, Bob Webb, Mary Measle, Buddy, Dave, The Numbers Band cast; Bob and Jack Kidney, Terry Hynde, Chris Butler, Jerry Casale, Fred Trabuzzo, David Robinson, Michael Staley, etc. Joe Walsh, Tom Kriss, Jimmy Foxx, Phil Keaggy and everyone else I've forgotten again.

47 comments:

PG said...

I went to the Numbers Band website - what a flash from the past. I went to school with Bob Kidney at Cuyahoga Falls High - 1964-1966. We used to shoot pool during high school at a mutual friends house. Terry Hynde and I hung out a lot in the student union at Kent State - 1968 - 1970. He gave me a lot of very valuable music theory info - scales, modes,etc. I still have some of his original student union music lessons in my piles of music notes, fakebooks, and charts. He taught me the most valuable music lesson which is that the 3rd is the most important tone in music in that it establishes major/minor. I still love to argue this point with younger rock players - when they reply - " it's the root, dude". Granted the root and our roots are always important. I saw that Freddy Salem was at their 30th reunion. Now Freddy, who I remember at age 15 was an exceptionally talented musician. His father was a local jazz drummer in Akron, I believe. He played very solid groove drums when we first met through Tom Schrontz - drummer for the Brambles. He went on to play great guitar and taught me the basic lll, Vl, ll, V, l jazz bassline with all the accidentials which I believe he had learn from a local jazz guitar legend named Russo from Clevland ( I think that's right). He tore it up on the blue and rock.

Peter Goodman

bh said...

The James Gang's Last Prom

As we all know, The James Gang played continuously all
over Northeastern Ohio.

When their first album was released, their travel
increased, and they were beginning to play large
venues, either as an opening act for groups on tour or
as headliners.

Joe was living in Kent, and I saw him pretty often,
mostly due to his relationship with Joe Masseria, who
I worked for at Halcyon days clothes store.

One weekend, we found out that The James Gang was
scheduled to play the senior prom at mentor High
School near Cleveland. They weren't really accepting
that kind of gig anymore, but maybe they had booked it
a long time before, or the money was good or
something, so they went ahead and played.

Joe invited some pals from Kent up, in the guise of
roadies even though we weren't, and off we went to the
school gymnasium. I know Pete Gregg was there, and
maybe some others on the blog?

Young David (me) was inspired to ingest some sort of
psychedellic substance, and the sea of taffeta dresses
and powder blue tuxes of the prom attendees, combined
with the swell decorations in the gym ( I think the
theme was " A Night in Hell"), certainly added a weird
pizzaz to the visual aspects of my perceptions.

The James Gang did a nice long set and took their
break
David Scroggy

dscroggy said...

The James Gang's Last Prom / Part II (comment was interrupted)-

During the band's break most of us repaired to the edge of a playing field behind the gym. It had rained recently, and a humongous puddle had formed out there, stretchin halfway across the field. I was hunkered down raptly observing the play of lights reflecting on this giant slick, probably traversing galaxies or something, when I was suddenly shoved from behind.

In a nanosecond of panic, as I commenced a swan dive into two inches of pond scum, I heard the maniacal Walsh cackle. He grabbed me just before I pitched over and said "knowing your state of mind, I couldn't resist". Har de har har, Joe. Everyone thought it was hilarious except me, but when I regained composure I had to laugh.

Back inside, poor Joe had to pose for yearbook photos with the prom king & queen, and otherwise endure the comments of the chaperones and kids. One of the requests, delivered in all seriousness by the principal or someone like that, was for the band to quit playing these long numbers and to "play something better to dance to". I believe a few Motown numbers like "My Girl" was offered as the preferred solution.

The band had already about had it with this gig, and I suppose for Joe that was the last straw. As they began to play, Joe started to shoulder his amps, shifting the whole stack of them to stage right. That's where our little knot of Kent crazies was situated. When he had them so they were pointing away from the audience and directly at us, he launched into a blistering solo that went on forever. I think they got the message. I know we sure did! -DS

PG said...

The Measles during the time that we were all attending Kent State around 1968 - 1970 consisted of Fred Weber and Mary Measle on vocals with Bob Webb on guitar and others mentioned. They played at J.B.'s in Kent alot and were mucho fun. The original Measles however started before that and featured Joe Walsh on guitar and played at the 5th Quarter in Kent. Around 1965 - 1966 when I first started playing guitar I lived in Cuyahoga Falls and was in a band from West Akron (Firestone High territory) called the Bards. We played almost entirely early Rolling Stones ( 1st five albums) in the style of the Turnkeys (another local band at that time featuring the Goldwaithe brothers) who played almost every Friday night at the Note in Cuyahoga Falls. Tom Schrontz was our drummer and the lead guitar was Dan Lamertze (sp) who was very bright and very talented. He had been playing 1 1/2 years at that time and could play every Keith Richards solo note for note - "Carol", "Down the Road Apiece", "Empty Heart", "Have Mercy", etc. Dan went on the next year after high school to MIT, started studying Nuclear Physics and ended up practicing medicine. Anyhow, he and Tom Schrontz use to tell me about the guitar player with the Measles. That summer (1966) I went to the Ohio Teen fair where the Measles were playing. This guy, Joe Walsh came out on stage with a blond Beatle haircut,sharkskin Beatle suit and pulled out a sunburst Gibson 335 style 12 string. That was the summer that "Paperback Writer" w/ the flip side "Rain" had been released by the Beatles. The band then did this absolutly stellular version of "Rain" with Joe Walsh singing lead. When they got to the end where the Beatles ran the tape backwards, he sang it backwards! I was blown away. I still tell this story to friends and local musicians here in Santa Cruz, CA where I live. We have a show in Santa Cruz called "The White Album" which is the complete Beatles white album performed by some of the better local musicians including Tiran Porter of the Doobie Brothers. They do an excellent job and catch all the special effects, sampled parts, note for note guitar solos, 4 part vocals, etc. They also do another show called Rubber Revolver which of course is is the Rubber Soul and Revolver album. They end each show with both Paperback Writer and Rain. I went to see it over Christmas this last year with another local musician and friend, John Fable. During the last song (Rain) I had an extremely vivid flashback of 38 years ago when I first heard Joe Walsh perform the same tune. You kinda had to be there.

PG Santa Cruz

dscroggy said...

I only heard The Measles a few times, but did see a lot of Mary Sterpka (aka Mary Measle) around Kent. What a sweetheart she was. The only recorded appearance by her I know of is on "Midnight Man" from the James Gang's "Thirds" album. She sings like an angel.

But one instance sticks in my mind, which is a weird covergence of events involving the Kent riots and The Measle's set list. After the Friday night riot downtown, the university threw together any kind of event they could think of to keep students on campus and away from both downtown and the demonstration that was planned for Saturday night at the soccer field on campus. There were films, readings, whatever- but one main thing was a hastily put together concert/dance at the large Tri-Towers dormitory complex. The Measles played.

I was at the demonstration, of course, and as it got going with a hundred or two milling around with no particular plan other than being upset, someone yelled" let's go over to Tri-Towers and shut down that dance". The crowd began to move toward the dorms, picking up numbers along the way. A mob mentality grew stronger, and by the time the (now larger) group got to Tri-Towers they were ready for trouble.

As the several hundred students burst into the dance, The Measles, I swear to god, were just commencing a ringing loud cover of The Stones song "Street Fighting Man". Now what are the chances of that?

They never quit playing, but about half the audience joined the demonstration and headed out back toward the soccer field. Coming over the rise, and looking down, there stood the small wooden ROTC building. I think we all know the rest. -DS

bh said...

I first met Terry Hynde in 1965 when I was a freshman at Kent. He was one of the first musicians I had met who was into jazz. We called him Terry "bebop" Hynde. Years later, we were reunited when I produced an album for 15-60-75, the Numbers Band along with Freddie Salem, who paid for the recordings and also played some guitar on the sessions. Terry had introduced me to a woman fan of the band, Carol Pare, who later became my second wife. The circles just keep getting smaller.

writerkori said...

Hi all, and thanks for this great blog. I am a 24 year old graduate student and writer with a strong interest in northeastern Ohio's music scene during this era. In spite of the fact that I obviously never lived it, I've always felt like I belonged back there with you all instead of my generation of losers.

My father, Mark Frazier, was the drummer in Lacewing (formerly the Measles) starting in late 1969. I grew up in Kent, and have heard all of his stories about what it was like to play music in Kent during such a pivotal, historical time. He vividly recalls playing at J.B.'s the night of the riots on Water Street, and how he and my mother were about to go outside to see if her car was okay when Joe Bujack pulled them back instead the door just as the cops threw tear gas into the road. I loved reading the story someone posted about the concert at Tri-Towers because I've heard that one, too. My dad says that they threatened to break their equipment, and he was horrified. His drums were his life.

Anyway, all this stuff is fascinating to read. I've read as much as I possibly can and acquired a ton of local music on vinyl, CD, and mp3. I can't walk downtown when I'm at home without thinking about everything that went on there. Last month I had the chance to go see the incredible Glass Harp at the new incarnation of J.B.'s. My mother and uncles went with me, for the first time in thirty years. They said it was surreal.

For anyone who has iTunes and is unaware of this, I'll add that Lacewing and December's Children's albums are available there to download. Quality is a little scratchy, like someone uploaded it from the vinyl. But still, it was a great chance to here both my father's music and another great area band - and for you all who lived it, it'll be a great nostalgia trip for sure. Thanks again.

Cindy said...

Things I remember:
James Gang early days in Kent, mostly at the Kove. Especially remember Joe Walsh singing and playing guitar alone a version of "Elusive Butterfly".

Smoking Js with Fox and Joe W during their breaks.

Following Lacewing everywhere because not only did I love their music with Mary and Pecchio, etc, but I had a big crush on Bob Webb since seeing him first in the "Comin Generation" from Alliance OH. We became friends but lost touch when I moved from OH to California in 1969

Going to a gig in Youngstown, OH when Phil Keaggy was playing with the "Volume Four". As Phil was singing "Eleanor Rigby", I sat on the stage, knocked his microphone into his mouth and chipped his tooth. I felt so bad and so stupid, but Phil's manners were and probably still are as exemplary as his guitar playing.

Going to the Freakout in Younstown whenever the Human Beinz, Pied Pipers or Poppy were playing. Love those bands too.

Boy, I miss that music, those great musicians, the people they were, and the "good old days"....

Cindy, Las Vegas NV

Anonymous said...

I was an original member of The Measles from the fall of 1965 to the spring of '66, when the band decided to "become a foursome" and I was released. I sang and played tambourine with them during those early days. Joe was my roommate at KSU at the time with Buddy Bennett living at another dorm closeby. Larry Lewis played rhythm guitar and Bobby Sepulveda played Bass. We were the only local band with tight 3 and 4 part harmonies at the time. Joe was a great vocals teacher and I started my lifelong love of guitar playing because of him. Mike Williams

Ray Man in RI said...

If one is investigating the wonderful musical climate that was Kent back in the mid-late 60's you have to include The Turnkeys in any discussion with the Goldwaithes in the band.
What a wonderful place Kent was to be in and be a part fo that great music scene! Those times and those bands had such an impact on so many-myslef included and they stay with me to this day.

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Anonymous said...

Don't know if anyone will read this because it looks like it has been awhile since someone has posted anything. Well, I just wanted to say that I do remember when the Measles first started back in 1965. I was attending a dance called the J-teens at Highland High School in Ravenna, Ohio and all I can remember is that this group made a great impression on us teens. I am living in Switzerland now and was listening to a Cleveland channel on the radio and the name "James Gang" came up and then the memories started coming back. So I googled to see if I could find some info on the "Measles" and "James Gang". I remember that this group brought so much joy to a lot of teens because the other local groups were kind of boring at the time.

Cindy said...

if anone knows how to contact bob webbb or Ed Kolakowski from Comin Generation (before
Bob went to Lacewing) please ask them to email me because I have a great piecde of memorabilia from one of those bnds and I thought they would like to have it. I would only give it to Bob or Ed. My email address is miniluv@cox.net. I was from Alliance area but live in Las Vegas now. My name is Cindy. Thank you.

john robine said...

I spent 66 to 70 at the bars in Kent. I remember all the bands mentioned. I spent most of my time at the 5th Qaurter. My favorite band was Pinley Thinstripe. Any one remember them. Mary and the Measles were great. Sugar and Spice were an r& b band that really made it. What a wonderful time Of course I loved the James Gang JB's and The Kove. Email me if you remember any of these bands

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Anonymous said...

Saw the Measles open for Sam the Sham and the Pharohs and Paul Revere and the Raiders at the Canton Auditorium in early 1966. WHAT A SHOW!!

Anonymous said...

I was at the Mentor High School Prom that year. I was a Junior. I'll never forget dancing to "Funk 49". Later saw Joe at the Crossroads Festival in Dallas (Eric Clapton)....I miss those days and the fantastic music.

Rik Williger said...

I just discovered this blog, don't know how old it is.
I got a call from Buddy and Bobby in 1971 to become the organist for The Measles (yes, back then, I was an organist, before we all became "keyboard players") and, at the time, the line up was, from stage right to left, Bob Baird on bass, Buddy Bennett on drums, Bobby Sepulveda on vocals/guitar/trumpet, Tom Clapsaddle on lead guitar, and me on organ and later other keyboards, guitar, and sax. Tom left, to be replaced by Mike Delaney, and we added Mary Sterpka back to sing with Bobby. We later added a singer named "Jaye" (don't remember her last name}, who was only with us briefly, before the band just flamed-out, somewhere around 1976 or 1977. I was saddened when The Dome came toppling down several years ago, as it was "home" for quite a long time.
-Rik Williger

Anonymous said...

I was killing time on the PC and somehow fell into this site. Oh my God. What a series of flashbacks! The Dome and JBs were my home nearly every Fri. and Sat. night. Our group would always have at least a half dozen tables pushed together at the Dome till closing then off to East Park for breakfast.I remember all the names and places. I couldn't help noticing the band "Featherstitch" is missing from all the tangents. I knew Delaney and "Wizard" Williger from The Measels and along with Frazier from Featherstitch. (I ran around with Frazier's brother-in-law all through school). I have 40+ year old tapes of the Measels (featuring "George" singing Wild Thing from his wheelchair) and the final Featherstitch concert from JBs (featuring Delaney trying to hit a high C) with both putting a real hurt on your ears. Unfortunatly they got packed away 30+ years ago. When I find them I'll make them available for a good laugh! I went to J Teens underage at my alma mater Highland Elementary and was at JBs and the Kove during several of Joe Walsh's "pop ins". Thanks to the bloggers and musicians for the memories and flashbacks. FYI, Hai Muradian (Harry Featherstitch) has a Ravelers site and the Featherstitch album is on John Charleston's site.

Dan H.

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